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Death of a Loved One
Madison
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2008 6:31 PM
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In March of 2007, we lost our 30-year-old daughter.  I have found that talking about it and writing about her has been so important to me in the grieving process.  An unexpected loss of a child, even an adult child, is crushing.  The following January, I also lost my 83-year-old father.  Not particularly good couple of years for us!

I wonder if anyone has any input as to what helps families get through the grieving process?

Madison

Babs
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2008 7:11 PM

Sorry, Madison, to hear about the loss of your daughter and father.  I lost my father on August 23 to pneumonia.  He was 82.  He was battling 3 cancers but it was the pneumonia that killed him.  I spent his last 2-1/2 months close to him and caring for him, attending to his every need.  I was assisted by 2 caregivers too but I wanted to take over the primary care of my father.

I'm still grieving and I cry intermittently.  I guess part of the grieving process is to play back, in your mind, over and over again, the moments you spent with your loved one - the things he said, his gestures, his comments, even a look here and there, his little habits and mannerisms.  Someone suggested that if I continue to grieve beyond 6 months, I should talk to someone about it.  I get nagging feelings that I should have done more even if people say I did all that I could.

Those 2-1/2 months I think constitute my turning point in life.  I felt very close to my father, and was so happy to have spent time with him.  And I think this is why my grief is so profound - because I was with him till the end.

I hope you can recover from your grief.  I know you miss your daughter and father very much, Madison.


Madison
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2008 7:27 PM
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Thank you for your kind words.  I think I was in shock, at first, then I have been through so many different phases--and still am going through them.

It does sound like you did everything you could for your father and what a gift for him to have had you there with him.  He sounds like a man who was truly blessed.  One thing I have learned is that, no matter who we lose, we WILL find a way to feel guilty for not having done enough.  It's a normal and natural thing to do, my therapist tells me, and although I knew I did everything I could have done, as you did, in your heart you may think it wasn't enough. 

At some point you will come to grips with the fact that you did everything right for your father.   It just takes awhile to get to that point, I guess.

I'm not sure there's a timeframe for grief.  We each grieve in our own way and that's OK.  I really did need the assistance of a therapist and I appreciate all that she has done for me.  She wants me to go to a grief group, too, but I haven't yet.  Have you?  It's supposed to be a good way to go.  I guess I'll join one someday.

My thoughts are with you. 

Madison

Elaine
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2008 9:22 PM
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I'm so sorry for your loss Madison. I can't even imagine losing a child. My brother-in-law passed a little over a year ago completely unexpectedly. He was 46, seemed to be in great health, had four kids, and just didn't wake up one morning. His teenage twin daughters found him. All we could do was stick together as a family and mourn his loss. Fortunately we live close to several of my husband's sisters, including the family that lost their dad, so we've been able to be there for them a lot. Now it's a little easier to talk about the good times and look at the pictures.

Having people to talk to is a great help.


Madison
Posted: Monday, October 6, 2008 11:33 PM
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Thank you, I will always miss my daughter.  Death is  part of life but the very part that is so hard to take.  Jodi left a little boy behind, our then 5-year-old Grandson.  The really good news is that he has dealt with it all really well.  He lives now with his father and very nice stepmother in a wonderful family environment but too far away from me! 

Dad is in such a better place.  No one should suffer and be so miserable as he was during his last year.  I do believe that we move on to a different place and that this life is just a stepping stone, but those left behind are the ones who have the hard time of it.

Your brother-in-law's wife and your nieces and nephews; what a shock for them.  Especially because he was only a young man in his 40's.  As you said, families really pull together at a time  of loss.  It's good to know you all can help out and support them. 

We always worry about the children, I hope they are doing well. Thank you for sharing.  It's tough to talk about this stuff, but I have found it to be very healing for me.

Madison

Lissy
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:50 AM
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I am so sorry for your loss Madison... I know what it is like to lose a loved one. Each person grieves in their own way, and I think there are different stages of grief, too. Some people cannot talk about the lost loved one or look at their photos while the would is fresh; those memories hurt. But then it becomes a part of their healing to talk about the lost loved one and bring back all those memories.
manojjonam10
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 10:51 AM
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I really don't know how to comfort you.It is really a very sad thing i could ever imagine.I hope they will leave you with memories only you had cherished with them.

Madison
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 11:21 AM
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Thank you both,

I agree that there are stages of grief.  It has been awhile now, and aside from the meltdowns every now and then, I'm doing much better.  I like having my daughter's photos around me; it reminds me of the life that she did live, even if it was short, it was important.  It also keeps her alive.

It is a good thing when other people talk about their own loss.  That was why I wanted to start this topic; talking about it, when you're ready, is a good thing, kind of like a grief group.  Especially with the Holiday season coming around, geez, even Haloween can be difficult!

Glad to meet everyone.

Madison

hoygirl
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 3:02 PM
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Thats so sad to lose a child no matter what age. My stepdaughter died at 16 in a car accident. I was already divorced from her dad but my two boys are her half brothers. It was very hard on them both. I can`t imagine the pain your going through. I wish that I could have told Stephanie how much I still loved her before she died  but I didn`t get to see her much at all.I really don`t know the greiving process. I do know that talking about the person who has passed always helps. remmbering the good times you had with them.
Madison
Posted: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 5:57 PM
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You are right, Hoygirl.  Talking about it does help. 

I feel sorry for you in your situation because, when you have a child in your care, you grow to love them.  In your case, being divorced from their father left you with a gap in your life to begin with.  Then, when she died suddenly in a car accident, I can't imagine how you felt. 

We all find a way to take-on the guild when a child dies.  We don't always have control of the situation, but I think one of the stages is a big "I wish I had done this or that, maybe I could have made more of a difference..."

After awhile, I began to realize that we are all on our own journey in this life.  Yes, we can make a difference, but we can't always stop the inevitable from happening.  No matter what, where you step-daughter is now, she knows you loved her.  She knows you think about her. 

Madison

Madison
Posted: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:55 PM
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Lissy,

You said you know what it is like to lose a loved one.  I had only lost grandparents until all of the craziness of the past 2 years.  I still miss them, of course, but I had very little experience in the area.

Did you lose someone close?

Madison

Madison
Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:07 PM
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Thank you, Mano,

I have wonderful memories of my beautiful, amazing daughter. 

By the way,  how's it going with you?????

We just figured you were too busy to write!!  Hope that's the deal...

Madison

Babs
Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:41 PM

Madison,

Your daughter sure was an amazing person, and I am happy that despite her brief stay on earth, she gave you countless joys and was a comfort to you during those moments when you needed it.  Mothers and daughters have a special bond.

The bond I feel with my father can never be broken or weakened.  I was close to my mother, but when she died it was a different kind of sadness I felt.  The sadness I feel for losing my father is something I can't explain.


Madison
Posted: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:54 PM
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Babs,

Fathers and daughters can have really special relationships.  It sounds like you and your father were close that way.  My son and his daughters are so close.  I watch them and realize how very special they are to each other. 

It is painful to lose someone you love that much.  The old saying that losing a parent is the way we all know it will be, does not make it any easier, does it?

Madison

skatss
Posted: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:56 PM
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My parents both died close to 25 years. It was very hard for my sister and I to get over it. We became very close, much closer than we've ever been.

Now my sister is dying of colon cancer. She doesn't have long to live and she is three years younger than I am. I cry every night. I take care of her because she also can't walk due to arthritis in both hips. I take her to her chemo treatments, her doctor appointments, I help her clean her ostomy bag, clean up after her when she gets sick from the chemo. And two weeks ago we were told that her cancer mutated and there isn't much more that can be done for her.

I think about what I will do when she dies and I cry all the time. This will be much harder for me than my parents death because my sister and I handled it together. But when  my sister dies I will be alone. I don't know how I will grieve for her.

Madison
Posted: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 7:17 PM
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Skatss,

I am so sorry that you are going through such a tough time.  I think tough is an understatement.

I cannot imagine what it is like to feel that you are alone in the world.  I have been through some "stuff" that has served as the hardest days of my life, but I had my family around me to hold me up.  I don't begin to understand how you feel but I hope we can help, if only to give you some support and soothing words.

You have been such a good sister.  What you have provided for your sister is amazing.  I feel confident that when she moves on, she will be in a wonderful place; it's always those left behind who hurt the most.  For our loved ones who depart, their pain is finished.

Come back and talk about it as time passes.  I always thought that helped me.  We will try to be here for you, but we aren't therapists, just folks who have been through some deep losses.

Keep in touch, I will say a prayer for your sister and pray that you have the strength to get through this difficult time.  Sending you a hug! (Hugs are good.)

Madison

Maria
Posted: Thursday, October 16, 2008 1:03 PM
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Skatts,

I know what colon cancer is all about.  That's what my father died of, although it was pneumonia that eventually took him.  He was diagnosed with colon cancer in 2004 and wore a colostomy bag for 2 weeks.  After that he was ok.  He resumed his morning walks and remained active.  But early this year he started to get weak.  He survived his first bout with pneumonia in February, then it hit him again in August.  He came home from hospital and died a week later (August).

I shall pray for you.  As a caregiver, you're doing a great job.  You will be blessed.  I was with my father in his last 2-1/2 months looking after his needs.  Those are my most precious moments.  When you care for someone, someone up there will look after you.  It's the law of the universe.

Be strong.


Raven
Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 9:44 PM
I just wanted to mention that if you have lost a loved one, there are so many grief support groups on Facebook.  Lots of loving, supportive people who have lost someone they love get together on line to help each other.  Facebook isn't just fluff anymore!
Moxie
Posted: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:50 PM

I think it's really hard when someone close to you dies and the two of you have unresolved issues.  I loved my dad with all my heart but I'm still angry with him for things he did while he was alive.  I never knew that he gambled as much as he did.  I knew he played but I had no idea that he gambled away so much money that, after I left home, he nearly gambled away our family home!  After he passed away, I learned that he lost my mother's inheritance in ONE night.  He lost his own inheritance as well. 

 

I don't care about the money but now that he's gone, my mother is having trouble making ends meet.  So, after working all of her life, she is strapped for money.  The only account he couldn't get at was her retirement account and thankfully, at least she has that to live on.

 

Don't mean to get all goofy but I think it's hard when you lose someone and you have those nasty unresolved issues...


Raven
Posted: Sunday, February 27, 2011 9:49 PM

Moxie,

Unresolved issues between people seem magnified when one passes away.  I don't know what your belief system entails, but I believe that my loved ones who have passed on are still able to see and hear us on the other side when we talk about them or to them.  So, it follows that you always have time to make peace with your deceased father when or if you're ready to do that.  Carrying around that anger is hard work.  I understand why you're upset and angry because fathers are supposed to be the strong ones, the one who protects the family.  It sounds like your father let you down and didn't protect your mother so you're disappointed in him.  Sooner or later you might realize that he was just a human who made some mistakes.  You can forgive him when you're ready.  There's always time...when you're ready.

 


 

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